Testimony of Lorie Van Auken
Thank you for continuing on the path to seeking the truth on this tenth anniversary of 9/11 and for inviting me to speak to you.
My name is Lorie Van Auken. On September 11, 2001, my husband, Kenneth, went to work at Cantor Fitzgerald in the North Tower of the World Trade Center. Ken was on the 105th floor of Tower One when American Airlines flight 11 hit his building. He left a message that began with “I love you” and went on to let me know that he had felt the building get “hit by something.” Ken didn’t know if he would “get out” … essentially he was calling to say goodbye. I knew that my husband had survived the initial strike, but that’s all I knew.
It was a harrowing day. As the planes were striking their targets, my mother called and said, “Put the TV on.” My sister called as she was heading into Manhattan to see if I knew what was happening in New York City. As we were speaking, the second hijacked plane, UA 175, flew over her head. I remember telling her to just turn around and get away from there.
My two kids were 12 and 14 years old, and were at school. I was in a panic, and didn’t know what to do. I called their schools and was assured that my children were both safe and would not hear about the attacks at school. Of course that was absurd. My son watched the attacks in real time on a TV that a teacher was riveted to. The teacher was unaware that my son was watching from behind. My daughter heard about a plane crashing into her father’s office building from another student.
While I sat in utter shock from what I was watching on television, I continued to hope for a glimpse of Ken, somewhere in the chaos of people running and jumping from the buildings.
At some point, President Bush was shown sitting in an elementary school class listening to a story about a Pet Goat — this footage was in a split screen with a video of the WTC that had smoke billowing from a plane-shaped hole. I clearly remember trying to will Mr. Bush to get up and do something, but even after Andrew Card whispered something to him, he just continued to sit there. That was my first clue that something was not quite right. Shouldn’t the “Commander-in-Chief” have a more important job to do while planes are crashing into the WTC than listening to an elementary school class reading lesson? Wasn’t the President of the United States, himself, a potential terrorist target? I thought of my own kids and worried that the children in that Florida classroom were in harm’s way if President Bush was a target.
As I continued watching the most unbelievable drama I had ever seen, the WTC buildings started crumbling and crashing to the ground. The building that was hit first, my husband’s building, remained standing as the South Tower, which was hit second, fell. I thought, how did the South Tower get hit in the top corner of the building without that piece of the building falling away from the rest of the structure, as you would expect it to? Suddenly, Ken’s building exploded into dust and I watched as people tried to run away from the gigantic wall of smoke and debris that seemed to follow them down the street. Really? Steel-framed skyscrapers could disintegrate just like that?
My next-door neighbor picked my kids up from school that day. My parents were up from Florida, and were supposed to head back home on 9/11. They ended up staying with us for a month attempting to help.
As the news spread, our friends and family members seemed to appear from nowhere to sit with us while we waited for news about Ken’s whereabouts and condition.
That first night I got almost no sleep and made hundreds of phone calls to NYC and NJ hospitals as well as the Red Cross, hoping to find my husband alive somewhere. We didn’t find out how much our lives would change until two days later when Howard Lutnick, the CEO of Cantor Fitzgerald, appeared on TV. That’s when we learned that Ken didn’t get out … that no one in the building above the impact of the airplane had gotten out alive.
The sadness and horror that shrouded my family after September 11th cannot possibly be conveyed to you. Before long the gnawing questions started overwhelming me. I wasn’t eating or sleeping very much and instead I found myself hunched over my computer in my basement, reading and researching every 9/11 related article I could get my hands on. I read articles from all around the globe, trying to make sense of what had happened. I found that nothing made sense and I felt I could trust no one to tell me the truth. I started noticing that after September 14, 2001, the 9/11 stories in all of the newspapers began to look eerily the same. How could every writer be handling the emerging news in exactly the same way?
There would eventually be three different versions of NORAD’s timeline of their 9/11 response, but on September 18, 2001, the first version was released to the public. Since it seemed that there was little, if any, military intervention during these attacks, the obvious question became: what was the military response on 9/11 supposed to look like? We learned that NORAD had certain protocols to follow for planes that have lost radio contact, and for planes that are off-course. There is a separate set of protocols for hijacked airliners. With all these protocols already in place, how could four hijacked commercial airliners fly around the skies of the U.S. for so long with no military response? How were the hijackers able to evade our country’s elaborate defenses?
Mindy Kleinberg and I live in the same town, and our husbands worked for the same company, but we had never met prior to September 11, 2001. Right after the tragedy, a mutual friend introduced us. Mindy and I began attending a support group that the families affected by Pan Am 103/Lockerbie had set up for the 9/11 families. There we met Bob Monetti, who had lost a child in the crash of Pan Am 103. At another meeting for 9/11 victims’ family members, we became acquainted with Patty Casazza and Kristen Breitweiser, and we began emailing each other about questions we had.
Soon we would learn that there would be a Congressional investigation into ONLY the intelligence failures that led to 9/11. But by then we knew that every governmental agency had failed us on September 11th: NORAD, the FAA, the DOJ, etc., in addition to the FBI, CIA and NSA. We wanted an investigation into ALL of the actions and failures that had led to the deaths of our loved ones and so many others on that horrible September day.
Many people couldn’t, or more likely, didn’t want to hear the difficult questions regarding 9/11 that were emerging, but Bob Monetti listened and encouraged us to go to Washington D.C. to ask for a comprehensive investigation. We learned that there was a stalled bill proposing a 9/11 commission and decided to go and see if we could light a fire under the lawmakers to push forward with the legislation for an inquiry.
Asking for an investigation into 9/11 became a full-time job. The four of us planned a rally in Washington D.C. for June 11, 2001, nine months after 9/11, to garner support for our cause. Other 9/11 family groups joined forces with us. The rally’s attendance was less than we had hoped for, but the press was there, and our journey had begun.
When seeking meetings in Washington, you are asked for the name of your organization. Thus, the four of us, Mindy Kleinberg, Patty Casazza, Kristen Breitweiser and I, became the September 11th Advocates. Soon, other victims’ family members from other states began referring to us as “The Jersey Girls”. Before long, the press picked it up as well.
We came to learn that we had some allies and some detractors in Washington. Senator Toricelli (D-NJ) and his office helped us with the details of planning our rally. We needed chairs, water, a podium and a sound system. Representative Chris Smith (R-NJ) lent us his Chief of Staff, Mary Noonan, and she helped us navigate the complex and treacherous terrain of Washington D.C.
The four of us set up a meeting with Eleanor Hill, who led the Joint Intelligence Committee’s investigation (the JICI), into intelligence failures. From her we got confirmation that we needed more than just a scant look at intelligence failures to find out what had gone wrong to allow 9/11 to happen.
Gail Sheehy wrote an article about us called “Four 9/11 Moms Battle Bush” that told our story and brought public attention to our plight.
The group of us that would later become the twelve members of the Family Steering Committee for the 9/11 Commission had now loosely formed, and we learned to split up in order to meet with as many Senators and Congressmen as we could, on a given visit to Washington. We also met a few times with the director of the FBI, Robert Mueller, and his staff, where we were told about the FBI’s ongoing PENTTBOM investigation — PENT for Pentagon, Pen for Pennsylvania, TT for the Twin Towers and Bom, B-o-m for the exploding planes. The reasons given for why we couldn’t have any immediate answers often came from the FBI’s “ongoing investigation” excuse. We were not at all reassured by those meetings.
Suffice it to say, raising kids alone while having to go to Washington was difficult. We didn’t want to stay overnight so we would rise at 4:30 AM in order to be in D.C. on time for early meetings, remain all day, and get back on the road to be home by 11 PM.
As the final language for a bill that would give us the 9/11 Commission was almost agreed upon, we began to notice a lot of foot dragging. Vice President Dick Cheney had clearly been against having an inquiry from the start, and was working behind the scenes to keep things from moving forward. Cheney was often seen on TV with some scary reason for why we couldn’t have an investigation into 9/11. One time, while we were all together in Rep. Porter Goss’s office, Goss got a phone call from Cheney telling him to “keep negotiating” with us. Goss looked flustered by that phone call, and we were beginning to learn how Washington worked.
We finally got fed up with the intense run-around that we were getting with everyone blaming everyone else for the delay. We couldn’t take it anymore and asked Senator Lieberman (D-CT) to organize a meeting with all of the involved parties in one room, and to our surprise, he obliged. During that gathering it became painfully apparent to everyone that it was the Bush/Cheney White House that was causing the stalemate. As the meeting wore on, and it appeared that once again there wouldn’t be an agreement to the terms, all of the 9/11 family members that were in attendance stood up in solidarity saying that we would not leave without an agreement on the legislation. The press was outside waiting to hear about the outcome, and the White House knew it. That was a critical moment and a turning point for us.
Finally, the House passed a version of our legislation for an independent investigation. When the Senate voted on their version of the 9/11 Commission bill, we were invited to Washington to witness the event. As the Senate voted on the 9/11 Commission legislation, we were there cheering.
Then, we learned about conference committees, where the two houses of Congress would mesh the versions of the legislation that each had voted on. We wanted two years for the investigation, but got only 18 months. Initially, only three million dollars was allotted, compared with 50 million dollars allotted to investigating the Challenger explosion. We wanted subpoena power for each Commissioner, but with pressure from the Bush/Cheney White House, there was an agreement made that would allow subpoena power only if the Chair and Vice Chair OR at least six Commissioners voted for it. This was a political body, split between five democrats and five republicans. Getting six commissioners to agree to ask for a subpoena would have meant that one person had to jump over to the other side, which was highly unlikely.
The Commission legislation also gave guidance as to who would appoint the 9/11 Commissioners. As per the legislation, President Bush got to choose who would head the Commission. His first choice was Henry Kissinger. This news was getting some very negative press. Since Kissinger was informally known as the “king of cover-ups,” and we had fought long and hard for the creation of an independent investigation into the events of 9/11, this was unacceptable to most of us. Since Kissinger was tapped to head our commission, the Family Steering Committee asked to meet with him in his NYC office. It was as hot as a sauna in his office, and we wondered about the heat as we looked at the photos he had hanging on his walls. We all started peeling off our coats and sweaters. I walked around looking for any photos of Kissinger with the bin Ladens. A lot of research was done in preparation for that meeting and we had learned that Kissinger and Associates had some of the bin Laden family members as their clients.
Henry Kissinger didn’t want to publicly reveal his client list, but we knew that all of the commissioners were required to do so. After some polite conversation, I felt compelled to ask him directly if he had any Saudi clients or any clients by the name of bin Laden. After I asked my questions he spilled his coffee and nearly fell off of his couch. We’ll never know exactly why, but the next day Kissinger resigned.
President Bush then named Tom Kean, the former Governor of New Jersey, as Chairman of the 9/11 Commission, which was now taking shape. Various Congressional leaders picked the balance of the Commissioners. As we did our research it became clear that all of the members that had been chosen for the commission had some conflict of interest. It began to appear as if the choices had been made by those in power, more for the purpose of covering political backs than for the purpose of a comprehensive investigation. Our fight to establish the commission took 14 months.
The Family Steering Committee first met with Governor Kean in his office at Drew University in New Jersey, and after all ten of the commissioners were named, we met with them for the first time to lay out our concerns. At that meeting we asked them to subpoena early and often. At that meeting everyone seemed sympathetic.
The 9/11 Commission had been passed into law, however the work could not begin until all of the Commissioners and staff received their security clearances. This took far too long. They also needed to find and furnish office space in Washington D.C. and New York City. Meanwhile the clock was ticking on our investigation.
The first public Commission hearing was in March of 2003. Unbeknownst to us, our real work was just beginning. As “watchdogs” of the Commission, the next two years of our lives were exhausting and exasperating as we battled the White House, Congress, The Commission’s executive director, Phillip Zelikow and at various times both with and against the 9/11 Commissioners themselves on the various issues that arose.
We fought along with the Commissioners to get more money for the Commission, to get an extension of time, to get access to important White House documents and to get Condoleeza Rice to testify. We battled against the Commissioners trying to get them to subpoena recalcitrant witnesses and agencies, and were outraged when we learned they were using “minders” in interviews. We tried in vain to get them to fire their conflict-laden executive director, Zelikow, and fought against allowing Bush and Cheney to testify together in a void, with no transcript and no press. We let them know when they fell short of asking hard-hitting questions.
We went to every open hearing hoping that the Commissioners would ask tough questions. I can recall only a few instances during the 12 public hearings that we were actually pleased with the vigor of questioning. For example, we gave Richard Ben-Veniste high marks for his questioning of Condi and the uncovering of the August 6th President’s Daily Brief (PDB), which emerged as a key document.
As Executive Staff Director of the Commission, Phillip Zelikow really ran the show, deciding what topics would be covered at the hearings and who would be called to testify. After some cursory research we found that in 1995, he and Condoleezza Rice had co-authored a book called “Germany Unified and Europe Transformed: A Study in Statecraft.” They had worked together in the first Bush White House, and had both been members of the second Bush’s transition team, in 2000-2001.
As our intense monitoring of the 9/11 Commission continued, we found that there were even more insidious conflicts surrounding Dr. Zelikow. In his work for President Bush’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB), Zelikow helped write the plans for the Iraq war.
The Family Steering Committee immediately put out a press release.
“It is apparent that Dr. Zelikow should never have been permitted to be Executive Staff Director of the Commission. As Executive Staff Director his job has been to steer the direction of the Commission’s investigation, an investigation whose mandate includes understanding why the Bush Administration failed to prioritize the Al Qaeda threat. It is abundantly clear that Dr. Zelikow’s conflicts go beyond just the transition period.”
The press release went on to request Zelikow’s resignation.
We also wrote a letter directly to the Commissioners reiterating this issue going even further by stating: “It is now apparent why there has been so little effort to assign individual culpability. We now can see that trail would lead directly to the staff director himself.”
Again we asked for his immediate resignation. Our urgent requests were denied.
This was not the ideal formula for an independent investigation. The 9/11 families, or at least some of us, were hoping for a real investigation with scholars and experts in the appropriate fields and evidence to back up the work. We had wanted true independence from politics. We had fought so hard to get this Commission and did not want someone who clearly had huge conflicts of interest to be running the investigation. But unfortunately, that was what we got.
Zelikow split the Commission into eight teams, with each one covering a specific topic. The Family Steering Committee set up conference calls with whichever team was in charge of the upcoming hearing. Zelikow, or his assistant, Chris Kojm monitored the calls. The FSC wrote questions that we felt needed to be asked and as we sat at the 9/11 Commission hearings, we prayed that our questions would be posed. Sometimes our questions and concerns were addressed, but more often they weren’t. If one of our questions was asked, the follow-up was mostly non-existent which basically let the witness completely off the hook. If a witness didn’t have the information that they were being asked about and said that they would send the information along at a later date, we never knew if they had kept their promise.
In the beginning, no witnesses were even sworn in. And the subpoena power that we had fought so hard for them to have, was not being used. The first time the Commissioners used their subpoena power was on the FAA in October 2003, almost a year after the formation of the commission. In November of 2003 they issued their second subpoena to NORAD with threats of more subpoenas to come. But no more were issued.
Soon we were told by Zelikow not to send our questions directly to the Commissioners. We didn’t adhere to that rule, and continued to forward our questions along. We were appalled to learn that all the witnesses called before the 9/11 Commission were interviewed with “minders” in the room. This sounded to us more like tactics that would be used to control people’s responses, not an open search for the truth.
The Commission finally got catapulted into the media spotlight after Richard Clarke’s book “Against All Enemies” was released. The coverage really heated up when the families staged a walk out to protest the fact that Richard Armitage was called to testify in place of Condoleezza Rice. Ultimately, the White House capitulated and allowed Rice to testify. Under questioning from Richard Ben-Veniste, Condi revealed that the title of the August 6th, 2001 PDB was “bin Laden determined to strike in the United States.” She claimed that the document was historical and did not speak of a domestic threat. I felt that her claims were patently ridiculous and color-coded the August 6th PDB to show where the threats highlighted were both domestic and current. In one of our appearances on Hardball with Chris Matthews, I showed and explained my version of the document.
In July of 2004, the 9/11 Commission released its final report. We wanted time to read it before commenting publicly, but it didn’t take long for us to realize that the report was a huge disappointment. Many important topics weren’t covered, and far too many of our questions remained unanswered. “Everyone was at fault, therefore no one was at fault” was the Commission’s mantra. To us that just sounded like a hollow excuse for finding no one accountable.
With the passage of time, more evidence has come to light showing that the Commission’s report was less than a complete investigation. The official 9/11 story is based on tortured confessions, and legal experts acknowledge that evidence based on torture is not reliable. Zelikow himself has even tacitly acknowledged this.
In 2006, Kean and Hamilton released a book called Without Precedent, The Inside Story of the 9/11 Commission. In it they state that they knew that NORAD had lied to them, but never followed up to get the full story from them. They also catalogued their concerns about Phil Zelikow. Contrary to the assurances we had received from them regarding Zelikow during the Commission’s tenure, in their book they admit to having had their own reservations about him. Slowly, other commissioners came out with similar comments, and staff members, such as John Farmer, have written books that speak of issues within the commission.
Philip Shenon, a NY Times reporter, wrote an in-depth book about the Commission, which shows how Phillip Zelikow derailed the investigation. If information came up during an interview that did not fit with what he had decided the storyline would be, he would not allow the new information to be investigated. For example, documents from the NSA were never even looked at, even though they were a potential treasure trove of information.
Ten years after the 9/11 attacks, the old questions still linger and new ones have arisen. A real investigation into 9/11 has never been done. This is incredible considering the direction that we have taken as a country. The passing of the Patriot Act, entering two wars, and our entire foreign policy, has all been based on the official account of 9/11.
The proper place for the 9/11 proceedings would be a courtroom with subpoena power, rules for swearing in witnesses and established protocols for handling questioning, cross examination and evidence. And ultimately, one would hope, real accountability for the actions that led to the deaths of so many.
A reporter recently asked me if there is anywhere at all that we can still take our unanswered questions. My answer, sadly, was no. Many of the events that occurred on 9/11 were caught on video, so it is still possible to see the evidence of the unfolding crime. Forums such as this one, set up to scrutinize the events of September 11th, are critical.
I want to thank you all for taking the time to gather together on this tenth anniversary in order to explore the issues and to continue asking the questions that have never been answered regarding the events of September 11th, 2001.
Testimony of Bob McIlvaine
Hello, my name is Bob McIlvaine. I live in the suburbs of Philadelphia.
My son Bobby, almost ten years ago, died right here on the site at the north tower. It’s been a long ten years. Basically all I wanted to do was introduce how I’ve come to the point of doing what I’m doing now.
On September 11th 2001, Bobby lived on 66th between first and second and took the subway to Fulton Street and walked over from Fulton Street where he had just started a job at Merrill Lynch. We’re standing on Vesey Street. If we go down the street and make a left on West, Merrill Lynch is across the street on West.
He had just started there two or three weeks before 9/11. So that day we had no idea what happened to Bobby but we came up to New York and we did find his body and we took Bobby home and buried him a week later on Tuesday the 18th.
For years and years I’ve been trying to find out what happened that day. But in the beginning things were so frantic. You spent almost a year just grieving because you just can’t figure out what happened. But I questioned the story of 9/11 immediately. I just wasn’t getting involved in it too much. I had chosen, at that time, to go into the anti-war movement or the peace movement. I joined a group called September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows who were against the war, specifically a war because of 9/11. So I spent a lot of time doing that. I traveled around the world and it sort of culminated right before the Iraq War when I got arrested in front of the White House, which is one of the best things I’ve ever done in my life. It just felt good.
I traveled to Japan to walk from Nagasaki to Hiroshima to honor the civilians killed in wars, particularly the bombings of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. I’ve been to Bogota, Colombia talking about basically what I felt at that time — the blowback of American foreign policy had created this havoc that we have in the world.
And of course I went to 90% of the 9/11 Commission hearings. Well, my whole life changed after Condoleezza Rice testified. I don’t call it testimony. As far as Condoleezza Rice, it was a filibuster. They were questioning her about this August 6th memo that said Osama Bin Laden was supposed to attack the United States. And of course, I assume everyone knows what a filibuster is but she just talked nonsense, and each commissioner only had five minutes to speak up or to ask questions. Well, anyway that ended and nothing was said, nothing was done. All the commissioners were surrounding Condoleezza Rice shaking her hand, everyone’s smiling and that’s when I lost my cool. It was after that that I did an interview. I was angry and I’ve been angry ever since. The investigation was a total sham and I think everyone in the world knows the investigation was a total sham. Even some of the commissioners admit that it was a sham.
I’ve dedicated my life since then to just concentrating on 9/11 truth. Even at that time I felt strongly that there were people in the United States that were involved in this, but, who knew? Since 2004, I’ve dedicated my life to what happened that day. And I’ve been very global in that thinking. You talk about put options, you talk about NORAD, you talk about some of the other things that are so important to 9/11. But I’ve noticed that when I talk to people they get glassy eyed because there is so much information.
Now, all this time that I’m looking into 9/11, I’m also [realizing that] if anyone has lost a child, specifically murdered, you always want to know exactly what happened to your child. I know people that have lost a child in a car accident. They wanted to know – did that child suffer? And that’s a big part. I could never figure out what happened so we took Bobby home that week and he was one of the first ten bodies found. I never viewed the body itself, and I’m glad I didn’t because it was truly mangled. But his whole body was taken home.
Well, a few years ago I finally ran into the doctor who examined Bobby and he gave me an outline and he told me not to look at the pictures but he gave me an outline of all his injuries. And this was very revealing to me because there was over a hundred phone calls made to Bobby that morning and of course, not one of them was answered. Now if he was anywhere he would have immediately answered that phone. So what was happening, this is what I think, is that he came down Fulton Street and walked over here and decided to go to a seminar that was on the 106th floor of the old north tower. And we ruled out that he was on the 106th floor because he wouldn’t have been one of the first ten bodies found.
We thought maybe he jumped but the thing is he had one small break on his leg and all his injuries were in his chest and in the face. The back of him — no problem. His skull was still intact but everything was blown off his face. He lost his arm, and there were severe lacerations of his chest. So from talking to the doctor, we knew that Bobby died instantly. He didn’t have a chance to pick up his phone or answer it.
Through the years in my investigation, and I’ll get to that real fast after we’ve done this, in talking to so many EMS workers, so many firemen, so many policemen, there were explosions that were taking place in the towers before and after the plane hit. And this is the most important point to me. The 9/11 Commission hearings talked about a fireball from the plane hitting from the 93rd up to the 98th floor. The plane went in at an angle, and the fuel was in the wings, and the 9/11 Commission report attributes the damage in the lobby [to the fireball]. Many firemen have told me it looked like a bomb went off in the lobby, and bombs went off in the subbasement. I’ve had reports that bombs went off before the plane hit.
My scenario is that, where the Commission said that a fireball created this damage, it was the explosions that were going off in the basement and in the lobby. I feel that Bobby walked into the lobby, or might not have even made it into the lobby, and there was a huge explosion. And what finally caught me onto what exactly happened to Bobby was that I was wondering why they said it was a fireball because he would have had severe burns. Within the north tower you had people who were charred. People’s bodies were cut in half, but everybody was charred.
So I asked, what happened to Bobby? I don’t know exactly where they found him but, and this is a key point, in an explosion, in a detonation, the air that shoots out from that explosion is supersonic. It shoots out at supersonic speed and then the heat follows it. The fireball that supposedly came down does not have that energy. Remember, every window in the [lobby of the] north tower was blown out. You had an area of 208 feet by 208 feet. It’s impossible that a fireball created that damage. Therefore, my thinking with Bobby was that he was walking into the tower, there was a huge explosion, it killed him instantly, hit him in the face and hit him in the chest, obviously took off his arm, and that’s how he died.
I give presentations now and I ask — how in the world did those explosions take place? And my point is that there is no way in the world Muslims set those detonations. It was impossible that the planes created that havoc. So when I’m talking to you great people up in Toronto, I ask that, if you could, please spend time on these explosions. There is so much testimony.
Remember the 9/11 Commission Report refused to acknowledge the testimony they got from firemen, from policemen, from the EMS workers, of these explosions that were taking place in the subbasements. Both the 9/11 Commission Report and NIST lied about that. NIST said that there were no explosions so they didn’t have to test the steel that came from the towers.
Do I want a new investigation? Quite frankly, I don’t care if there’s a new investigation. I know it’s necessary but I can’t believe an honest investigation will ever take place. You’re having hearings up in Toronto. I just think it’s such a wonderful thing because it’s going to put this information out there, hopefully to the whole world and maybe from that we would have a non-partisan, objective investigation. But just for me, please spend the time on the explosions because that’s a key, key point to me. If these explosions took place, I can’t believe, I mean I know that the Muslims did not set those bombs within the towers. And I would rather exonerate, or let the Muslims off the hook. I’m getting to the point that I don’t really care who murdered Bobby. The thing is that we’re in constant war and it’s based on what happened that day, what happened that morning, and there were explosions that took place.
I really wish you luck in Toronto. My spirit is with you but my family is here at Ground Zero every September 11th. I’ll be thinking of you and I just want you all to stay strong and do your thing. Thank you.
