We at the International Center for 9/11 Justice are excited to announce the launch of a new podcast that will be a venue for conversations about research and current events related to the pursuit of 9/11 justice.
Episodes will feature a variety of hosts and guests and will air whenever there are timely topics to discuss.
For the inaugural episode, hosted by IC911 board member Marilyn Langlois, we were delighted to welcome physician Madhava Setty, MD, and historian Dr. Daniele Ganser for a conversation about “the mind-body question as a pathway to peace.”
Their discussion was a follow-up to Dr. Setty’s talk last December at the Second Annual David Ray Griffin Lecture. At that event, he covered several existential topics, including the possibility of reincarnation and its implications for human progress. He also spoke about the prospect of a “humanitarian revolution” that could lead to an unprecedented sense of togetherness and a rejection of the idea that war is necessary.
Recognizing the connections between these themes and the ideas often explored by Dr. Ganser in his own talks, Marilyn Langlois invited Dr. Ganser to have a conversation with her and Dr. Setty. The result was a stimulating and refreshing exchange, untethered from our usual focus on evidence-based analysis. We hope members of the 9/11 truth community will find it inspirational and thought-provoking.

Sections
(0:00) Langlois: Introduction
(2:15) Langlois: Guest Introductions
(7:04) Setty: How Our Thinking About Awareness Can Help Build Peace
(10:51) Ganser: Reaching a Position of Spiritual Power
(15:10) Setty: A Fearless Population Is Hard to Control
(16:10) Setty: Barriers to Looking at Things Clearly
(19:00) Setty: 9/11 a Gateway to Understanding Mass Deception
(21:14) Langlois: Only the Worthy Can See the Emperor’s New Clothes
(23:08) Ganser: 9/11 a Unique Opportunity to See We’re Being Deceived
(26:10) Ganser: More People Questioning Their Own Beliefs Post-Covid
(29:13) Setty: How Do You Know Which Experts to Agree With?
(32:22) Setty: We Should Not Impugn Our Opponents’ Motives
(35:50) Setty: Movement Toward Greater Consciousness Is Irrepressible
(37:55) Ganser: The Human Family
(46:10) Langlois: Distinguishing the Individual from Their Behavior
(47:15) Setty: The Reality of Both Light and Shadow
(52:00) Langlois: The Asset of Our Attention Span
(54:15) Ganser: Channeling One’s Attention Toward Reading and Nature
(57:05) Ganser: Dancing with the Shadow and Reincarnation
(59:45) Setty: Reincarnation Mindset as a Pathway to Peaceful Behavior
(1:04:40) Langlois: Altruism, Not Self-Interest, Motivates Positive Behavior
(1:06:45) Setty: Reincarnation Mindset as Potential Double-Edged Sword
(1:09:23) Setty: Smart Phones as Weapon and Tool
(1:11:08) Setty: Don’t Embody the Puppet, Embody the Puppeteer
(1:15:25) Ganser: Peace Movement Needs to Emphasize the Good
(1:19:10) Setty: Exercise Your Ability to Recognize Your Own Biases
(1:22:00) Setty: Let’s Not Take Ourselves So Seriously
About the Guests
Dr. Setty is science advisor to IC911, author of the book Woke: An Anesthesiologist’s View, and former senior science editor for The Defender, the online publication of Children’s Health Defense. His Substack is called “An Insult to Intuition.”
Dr. Ganser is a historian based in Switzerland and author of the books NATO’s Secret Armies and USA: The Ruthless Empire. His website is DanieleGanser.ch.